What Exactly Is Happening In the Arab/Persian World?

[turbo]

It appears that a Libyan warship has gone to Malta, as the crew defected after refusing to shell Benghazi.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/02/libya-warship-defects-to-malta.html

 

[Borg]

It appears that a Libyan warship has gone to Malta, as the crew defected after refusing to shell Benghazi.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/02/libya-warship-defects-to-malta.html

Oh to see the look on [STRIKE]his[/STRIKE] "that son of goats" face over that!

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Malta must be thrilled at receiving all this free military gear lol

 

[turbo]

Malta must be thrilled at receiving all this free military gear lol

Free 40-50 year old military gear that they have no parts for? Still, it's nice to see that some factions of the military are refusing to slaughter fellow Libyans just to keep the creep in power.

 

[nismaratwork]

Oh to see the look on [STRIKE]his[/STRIKE] "that son of goats" face over that!

You know I love you now... right?

Yes, Malta is having a good day, while Spain, France and Italy should probably get ready for SERIOUS blowback. Oh... and candles... they might want to invest in candles.


It seems that bomber was headed for the oil fields, not the population center of Benghazi. This... is not a good development.

 

[nismaratwork]

Free 40-50 year old military gear that they have no parts for? Still, it's nice to see that some factions of the military are refusing to slaughter fellow Libyans just to keep the creep in power.

I'm sure they'll find a suitable buyer for a couple of French jets used by Qaddafi... maybe France will want them back?

 

[DevilsAvocado]

MJ IS GHADDAFI! Michael Jackson must have been Ghaddafi's day job when he's not being the godfather of Libya... he's the godfather of POP!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8flIbqvQ7Eo

 

[CAC1001]

They are saying Ghadaffi might be ordering the destruction of oil pipelines, think the world's oil supply might be in for a major shock soon?

 

[turbo]

They are saying Ghadaffi might be ordering the destruction of oil pipelines, think the world's oil supply might be in for a major shock soon?

Do you have a source? "They" are notoriously unreliable WRT the facts.

 

[CAC1001]

Do you have a source? "They" are notoriously unreliable WRT the facts.

Just was flipping through some news channels and heard it. That's why I said "might" though, as a lot of the stuff right now is totally unconfirmed as regards to Libya.

 

[nismaratwork]

I've been hearing this too, and it jives with the goat's son to try and bomb Benghazi's oil fields. Definitive? hell no... probable?... sure seems that way.

 

[mugaliens]

They are saying Ghadaffi might be ordering the destruction of oil pipelines, think the world's oil supply might be in for a major shock soon?

Wow, 8 posts. Trying to artificially inflate oil futures? Just kidding, but on a more serious note I'd like to see some more definative sources, as well.

 

[OmCheeto]

Malta must be thrilled at receiving all this free military gear lol

I was thinking the same thing the other day. A friend of mine spent some time in Malta, so I knew how small it was. I was curious if they had an air force at all.

Ok then, here's half of Malta's air force before the two Libyan colonels defected.

But I'd say their military budget is going to skyrocket now that are going to have to replace Gunther the old volkswagen mechanic with an army of techs to keep those two Mirages in the air.

 

[nismaratwork]

It would seem that Moamar has hired Algerian pilots, and his son's 7 battalions are on the prowl in Tripoli. With threats of mustard agents and poisoning water supplies, we can only hope those are desperate and empty threats.

Oh, and the mercenaries?... being offered 1000-2000 USD (reported by CNN, unconfirmed) Per diem... keep in mind that's as much or more than the average YEARLY earnings in the regions being drawn from.

 

[lisab]

They are saying Ghadaffi might be ordering the destruction of oil pipelines, think the world's oil supply might be in for a major shock soon?

NPR reported yesterday that Libya contributes 2% of the world's oil supplies. Saudi Arabia can make up that amount, effortlessly.

So I'm a bit perplexed as to why oil prices didn't budge much until Libya started having trouble. It doesn't seem that they are a big enough player to upset the markets; is it just the final straw?

 

[Proton Soup]

NPR reported yesterday that Libya contributes 2% of the world's oil supplies. Saudi Arabia can make up that amount, effortlessly.

So I'm a bit perplexed as to why oil prices didn't budge much until Libya started having trouble. It doesn't seem that they are a big enough player to upset the markets; is it just the final straw?

i believe they said something about it being very high quality/burns cleanly. got to keep things pristine in europa.

 

[nismaratwork]

NPR reported yesterday that Libya contributes 2% of the world's oil supplies. Saudi Arabia can make up that amount, effortlessly.

So I'm a bit perplexed as to why oil prices didn't budge much until Libya started having trouble. It doesn't seem that they are a big enough player to upset the markets; is it just the final straw?

They contribute 2% of the [STRIKE]supply[/STRIKE] PRODUCTION, but they sit on the largest proven African reserves... which could be scuttled. In addition, the Saudis are getting even richer as this happens, and just pledged 10 billion USD in what amounts to social bribery.

Ah yes... and remember: Italy gets 38% of their oil from Libya, for one example. Interrupt that, and Italy is suddenly in the market for different oil. Spain, France... and others (especially Spain) would be wise to invest in candles at this point.

 

[DevilsAvocado]

Ok then, here's half of Malta's air force before the two Libyan colonels defected.

HUMMMMMMMMMMM!

See any resemblance on the aircraft insignia and these guys...??

[URL]http://iahmia.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/foppa.jpg[/URL]

When did Malta win the Olympic Gold in ICE HOCKEY?

These planes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Air_Force" !


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[Proton Soup]

HUMMMMMMMMMMM!

See any resemblance on the aircraft insignia and these guys...??

[URL]http://iahmia.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/foppa.jpg[/URL]

When did Malta win the Olympic Gold in ICE HOCKEY?

These planes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Air_Force" !


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no, those are just disks. 1000 free hours when you sign up for AOL.

 

[DevilsAvocado]

 

[BobG]

I was thinking the same thing the other day. A friend of mine spent some time in Malta, so I knew how small it was. I was curious if they had an air force at all.

Ok then, here's half of Malta's air force before the two Libyan colonels defected.

But I'd say their military budget is going to skyrocket now that are going to have to replace Gunther the old volkswagen mechanic with an army of techs to keep those two Mirages in the air.

Actually, two thirds of their fixed wing airplanes are Bulldogs (4 planes). They also have two Britten-Norman BN-2Bs.

They also have 5 helicopters, 3 of which used to belong to the Libyan Air Force, so there's precedence.

 

[mugaliens]

But I'd say their military budget is going to skyrocket now that are going to have to replace Gunther the old volkswagen mechanic with an army of techs to keep those two Mirages in the air.

Watch the movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_(film)" . That was thirty-five years ago. Do you think we've been sitting still since then?

Sheesh!

I'm out.

 

[mugaliens]

Half second with a mechanic and a hammer and either would be totalled.

What the hell is this post about? grown a brain, someone, please. Thanks.

 

[DevilsAvocado]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_(film)"

Humor anyone? Poodles!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

 

[nismaratwork]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/25/libya.protests/index.html?hpt=T1

Well, the USA just dissolved diplomatic relations, almost the moment the Americans were safe in Malta.

Meanwhile, The goat's son gave another speech in Green Square exhorting the crowd to bleed to the last in defense of Tripoli, and then to sing and dance. Video is on CNN and elsewhere of the scene, and the attempted protest met with anti-material assets, including artillery and mortar fire.

 

[Proton Soup]

i've got a weird feeling that the ambassador is hoping to end up as the new leader.

 

[Borg]

It seems Ghaddafi (who I will now refer to as, "that son of goats") ...

That gives me an idea. Maybe we could get George Clooney and company to do something about the situation.

 

[DevilsAvocado]

 

[nismaratwork]

That gives me an idea. Maybe we could get George Clooney and company to do something about the situation.

Hehheheheh, that would make the world a much better place, yes.

 

[rootX]

Post Tunisia events:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12588004

Security forces in the Tunisian capital have fired tear gas to try to disperse hundreds of demonstrators outside the interior ministry.

These people are out of their minds.

 

[nismaratwork]

Post Tunisia events:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12588004


These people are out of their minds.

OK... first, if I could there would be a litany of curses preceeding this.

Second... stupid bastards... they need to maintain order, but if they use the tactics of the old regime they'll be treated the same way.

 

[edpell]

Hungery

These people are out of their minds.

taking GDP(ppp) and population from the CIA Factbook (current) and using one
quarter of GDP(ppp) divided by population as the minimum wage we get

$ per hour
US 6.20
France 4.35
Saudi 3.15
Libya 1.80
Tunisia 1.25
China 1.00
Egypt 0.80
Paki 0.30

$ per month
US 990
France 695
Saudi 500
Libya 290
Tunisia 200
China 155
Egypt 130
Paki 50

Maybe they are just hungery.

 

[Evo]

taking GDP(ppp) and population from the CIA Factbook (current) and using one
quarter of GDP(ppp) divided by population as the minimum wage we get

You forgot to take cost of living into consideration, so this doesn't have much meaning by itself. But, yes, the poor are very poor.

 

[edpell]

You forgot to take cost of living into consideration, so this doesn't have much meaning by itself. But, yes, the poor are very poor.

I am using the purchasing power parity numbers from the CIA Factbook that is the (ppp) in my post. I have let the CIA figure out the PPP conversion. I trust they know what they are doing.

The numbers would look far worse if I just used GDP.

 

[rootX]

taking GDP(ppp) and population from the CIA Factbook (current) and using one
quarter of GDP(ppp) divided by population as the minimum wage we get
...
Maybe they are just hungry.

Those comparisons are meaningless.

However, longer they protest, longer country stays in chaos, longer it takes to the bring back the country to the right track. It is nonsensical to overthrow governments and create chaos every time they feel hungry. Blaming government for everything, protesting, and creating chaos is not going to give them better living standards.